Alex Lintner, Experian’s CEO of tech and software solutions, came on Decoder this week. When I asked Alex whether he thought the average person likes Experian as a company, he gave me one of the most memorable answers we’ve ever gotten. Check out the clip below, and catch the full interview here on The Verge.
Decoder
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas – and other problems. Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policy makers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future. Subscribe here!

Docusign’s Allan Thygesen says ‘not providing an AI service isn’t really an option.’

What the bidding war over Warner Bros. Discovery says about the future of Hollywood, with Puck’s Julia Alexander.

Alex Lintner, head of tech for the global credit reporting company, on AI, privacy, and what data brokerages really do.

How Elon Musk and xAI are putting a nail in the coffin of content moderation.

Razer’s Min-Liang Tan says the backlash to AI slop is understandable, but that he sees a future where AI can “help game developers make better games.”
We’ve got something special for you today. It’s my friend Hank Green, longtime internet creator, science educator, and viral TikTok star, interviewing Dropout CEO Sam Reich, now in full video on our Decoder YouTube channel.
Hank did this episode as a guest host last summer while I was out with our new baby, and it’s a fan favorite, bringing together two internet personalities that’ve known each other for a very long time and who have a lot of inside knowledge about how the internet, Hollywood, and entertainment all intertwine. We think it’s one of the best episodes of Decoder we put out last year, and it’s honestly just a really fun conversation. Here’s the full transcript in case you want to read, rather than watch, the interview.
If you’re in Vegas this week, you can still RSVP for free tickets to our live podcast recordings on Wednesday, January 7th, at Brooklyn Bowl. Decoder will begin at 12:30PM PT, and Vergecast starts at 3:30PM PT. Both events are first-come, first-seated, and sure to be a blast. We’ll also be hosting a special reception following The Vergecast for all seated guests.
You can RSVP for Decoder here, and RSVP for Vergecast here. See you there!
The event takes place starting at 12PM PT / 3PM ET at Brooklyn Bowl in Las Vegas on Wednesday, January 7th. Nilay will be taking the stage with Min at 12:30PM to talk AI, the state of gaming, and everything Razer is announcing at the show, followed by a live Vergecast taping at 3:30PM PT.
If you’ll be in Vegas for the show, you can RSVP at the link below for free tickets. Otherwise, stay tuned for the Decoder Live recording to hit our pod feed and YouTube channel later in the month.
[The Verge]

The year AI exploded — and everybody has thoughts about it.

CEO Prashanth Chandrasekar on how ChatGPT became an “existential moment” for Stack Overflow.

“Grow up, Mr. President. Grow up, Brendan Carr.”

Square’s Willem Avé on AI automation, investing in crypto, and what it’s like working for Jack Dorsey.

The Verge’s Hayden Field joins Decoder to discuss the politically fraught climate around AI safety.

IBM was early, you might argue too early, to AI. Now, CEO Arvind Krishna thinks big bets like Watsonx and quantum computing will start to pay off.

Amazon’s lawsuit against Perplexity has blown the doors open on the great AI browser fight.

Ring’s ‘chief inventor’ on AI, lost dogs, and why cameras aren’t dystopian.

The Nvidia-backed data center company is part of a growing ecosystem of so-called neoclouds propping up the AI industry and its insatiable hunger for compute.

The inventor of the World Wide Web on why he’s still optimistic about the future of the internet.

The system is broken. ChatGPT cheating is just a symptom.

Risher sees Lyft as a service company above all, but AI makes everything weird.

Enshittification author Cory Doctorow on why things get worse, and how to fight back.

Sean Fitzpatrick promises his AI won’t get you in trouble with a judge.

GM CEO Mary Barra and new Chief Product Officer Sterling Anderson on the company’s plans for AI, autonomy, and EVs.
We’re very excited to announce that Decoder is now officially on YouTube. So if you prefer to watch and not just listen to your podcasts, you can head over to youtube.com/@decoderpod and subscribe to our new channel, where we’ll post new full-length interviews every Monday.
Our first episode, featuring Zocdoc CEO Oliver Kharraz onstage at the TechFutures conference in New York City, is available now. Check it out, like and subscribe, and tell us what you think.

Oliver Kharraz on competition, healthcare, and where AI really belongs in medicine.

Guest host Jake Kastrenakes and transportation editor Andy Hawkins discuss the death of the federal EV tax credit and what it means for US automakers.
Hey folks, we want to say thank you to everyone who has listened to and supported Decoder, which won a gold award for best business podcast at the annual Signal Awards. And now, Verge subscribers can listen to Decoder totally ad free! Check out this guide on how to set that up. And remember, we really do read every email.
[Signal Awards]





Imbue CEO Kanjun Qiu comes on the show to discuss this week’s OpenAI news and whether the AI industry will trend toward closed or open ecosystems.

RJ Scaringe on not politicizing Rivian and how he’s dealing with tariffs, China, and prepping for R2.

Anthropic’s David Hershey joins the show to discuss Claude Sonnet 4.5 and the current landscape for agentic AI.

Guest host Joanna Stern and the head of Ford discuss Apple CarPlay Ultra, competing with BYD, and what car she should lease next.

AI firms are now working with weapons makers and the military. Safety expert Heidy Khlaaf breaks down what that means.

“Never break trois.”

New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill on AI psychosis, user delusions, and teen safety.

Guest host Hank Green and Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi go deep on digital marketing, AI, and the influencer-creator debate.

The OpenAI chairman, now working on AI agents at his new startup Sierra, on why he’s all in on AI.

