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Tech is reshaping the world — and not always for the better. Whether it’s the rules for Apple’s App Store or Facebook’s plan for fighting misinformation, tech platform policies can have enormous ripple effects on the rest of society. They’re so powerful that, increasingly, companies aren’t setting them alone but sharing the fight with government regulators, civil society groups, and internal standards bodies like Meta’s Oversight Board. The result is an ongoing political struggle over harassment, free speech, copyright, and dozens of other issues, all mediated through some of the largest and most chaotic electronic spaces the world has ever seen.

Meta’s historic loss in court could cost a lot more than $375 million

In the second phase of trial, the state will argue for changes to Meta’s business.

Lauren Feiner
Spirit Airlines shuts down after Trump’s war on Iran doubled jet fuel prices

The discount air carrier canceled all flights, leaving travelers and employees in the lurch.

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Richard Lawler
Musk v. Altman is getting a live audio stream next week.

In addition to our ongoing reporting from the courtroom and digging through newly released evidence, you will be able to listen in live via YouTube. While recording to rebroadcasting the stream is prohibited, we can expect it to be live generally between 11AM and 5PM ET while court is in session.

For now, though, Hayden Field can catch you up on all the evidence released.

Richard Lawler
Richard Lawler
DOJ assault on the NFL could end the Packers as we know them.

A Milwaukee news report focuses on fan response to the Packers sounding the alarm over a reported antitrust investigation into the NFL’s broadcast deals with streaming platforms, which happened to pop up around the same time as Florida’s push against the “Rooney Rule” for coach hiring. FCC chair Brendan Carr said the FCC might investigate, too, but the team says the current profit-sharing setup is what makes a small market like Green Bay viable.

All the evidence revealed so far in Musk v. Altman

Emails going as far back as 2015 give a glimpse into the foundations of OpenAI and the early tensions at the company.

Hayden Field and Adi Robertson
Dominic Preston
Dominic Preston
Autonomous speeding tickets.

California cops will now be allowed to give tickets to self-driving cars for traffic violations, raising some interesting philosophical questions.

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Do androids dream of electric driving school?

Get the day’s best comment and more in my free newsletter, The Verge Daily.

Richard Lawler
Richard Lawler
Pete Hegseth goes out of his way to call Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei an “ideological lunatic.”

Asked by Senator Jacky Rosen (D-Nevada) in a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing about the DoD’s dispute with Anthropic and whether he could guarantee a human would be in the loop on any targeting decisions made with AI, Hegseth focused on Amodei and his company’s refusal to “accept our terms of service.”

Richard Lawler
Richard Lawler
Here’s how Gabe Newell and Hideo Kojima ended up in the Musk v. Altman evidence.

Among the evidence released publicly, there’s this email exchange (Exhibit No.844) between Valve founder Gabe Newell and Elon Musk about, of all things, trying to get a SpaceX tour and OpenAI introduction for Hideo Kojima.

Musk also wrote that he’d lost confidence in OpenAI competing with Google/Deepmind, and decided to attempt that through Tesla instead,” while pumping up Neuralink’s progress. Newell has since launched his own BCI company, Starfish.

Screenshot of Musk email response to Newell: “Sure, it would be great to meet Hideo Kojima and he’s welcome to see the rocket factory. No problem to send him my email. Best person to talk 0 at Neuralink is Max Hodak (max@neuralink com), who is the de facto head of day to day operations. Shivon Zilis is also worth talking to (predictably at shivon@neuralink). We’ve made some pretty insane technical progress. This is highly confidential, but we’re now able to implant ~6000 electrodes in a monkey brain with decent signal/noise. Moreover, the electronics are compact enough to be flush with the skull and the only thing visible is the USB-C opening and slight surround. Very trippy. Just like Neuromancer. Regarding OpenAL my involvement is very limited at this point. I still provide some financial support and get verbal and email updates every few wecks from Sam Altman, but don’t spend time there. I lost confidence that OpenAl could muster the resources to serve as an effective counterweight to Google/Deepmind and decided to attempt that through Tesla instead. We have cash flow on the order of billions of dollars per year to build hardware that hopefully has atleast a dark horse chance to keep Google honest. Probably worth talking about at some point.”
Screenshot of Gabe Newell email to Musk: For a long time | thought neuromodulation (e: TMS) was weird, mainly because | had an unsophisticated understanding of a bunch of aspects of the brain. I’ve more or ess done a 180, and think there is a significant near-term consumer marke. Is this something | should bring up with the Neuralnk team? If so, anyone in particular | should chat with there? Hope you are well
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Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Jury is being dismissed early so YGR can deal with an objection to Birchall’s testimony.

After Birchall said he had no first-hand knowledge of the xAI bid for OpenAI’s assets, OpenAI’s lawyer asked that his testimony from the direct examination be struck. We are going to hear about that now, outside the presence of the jury.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Birchall is actually very funny outside of court? Good for him.

He sees the OpenAI for-profit term sheet and writes to Shivon Zilis: “Pretty plain vanilla for-profit structure. So kinda hard to push a narrative that doesn’t involve investors being very focused on ROI. I’m a super fan of capitalism and making tons of money doing great things but not sure if this correlates with the ‘noble cause for humanity, not doing it to make money’ narrative. Did he/would he [Altman, lower on the email chain] offer E a board seat?”

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
We are now hearing about the pause in quarterly donations.

We saw Chris Clark’s email about pausing donations yesterday during Musk’s testimony. Today, we see an email from Birchall: “This was ready to go out when I was told that Elon informed Greg and Ilya that the funding would be on pause until they came to terms on the right path moving forward.”
This was while there were discussions of how to put the for-profit Musk wanted together.

Stevie Bonifield
Stevie Bonifield
The Senate bans senators from prediction markets.

In a unanimous vote, the Senate passed a rule on Thursday that bars senators and their staff from trading on platforms like Polymarket and Kalshi, effective immediately, as CNBC reports. The ban follows growing concerns about insider trading — earlier this month, Kalshi banned three political candidates for bets related to their races.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
We’re back.

And we are talking with Birchall about tax deductions for charitable giving.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Second break of the day.

OpenAI and Musk’s counsel need to discuss something... Back in 15.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Birchall cross.

He was used, I think, to get financial documents into the record. We are now on the cross, and he is giving mercifully brief and direct answers.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Birchall has just been asked about the four Teslas.

There is a confirmation document from Chris Clark to Elon Musk showing the donation values. The donation was to OpenAI, as agreed in the stipulated facts, and in conflict to what Musk testified today.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
Birchall testifies about Musk’s contributions to OpenAI.

We’re looking at a summary of about 60 donations to OpenAI, which Birchall says were directed by Musk, with Birchall helping execute all of them.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
A woman in the gallery has lowered a sleep mask over her eyes and is attempting to sleep.

I guess she isn’t into Birchall’s testimony about Musk’s charitable contributions?

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Musk steps down. He may be recalled.

Jared Birchall’s testimony will begin. Birchall runs Musk’s family office, Excession LLC, and generally serves as his fixer.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
We are on re-cross. Musk is getting testy again.

Savitt asked about Musk’s $1 billion funding commitment. When did Musk stop funding OpenAI? 2020. And that was when they broke the deal? No, I was uncomfortable. (some crosstalk)
Musk: “I understand leading questions. That’s a leading answer.”
YGR: He can lead. He can lead all he wants. Let’s remind everyone you are not a lawyer and you’ve never taken a class in evidence.
Musk: “I did take law 101 technically, but yes I am not a lawyer.”

Victoria Song
Victoria Song
I guess Casey Means didn’t have enough good energy.

Instead, President Trump said he’s nominating Dr. Nicole Saphier for surgeon general. While Saphier doesn’t appear to be running the wellness grifter playbook and does, in fact, have a current medical license, she’s also a Fox News commentator with a MAHA-derate stance on vaccines. When will my suffering end?

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
The Microsoft investment comes back up.

Musk’s back from break, reiterating that he had reason for waiting as long as he did to file suit against OpenAI — and saying his initial understanding of OpenAI’s agreement with Microsoft was that it didn’t violate the mission of the charity. “I don’t think I had a basis for filing a lawsuit before I did,” Musk says. He also refers to xAI as the smallest of the AI players, coming after Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, and Chinese AI models.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
And we’re back.

Resuming the redirect of Musk by Molo

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
We’re in break — and I just checked out something interesting.

In the document of stipulated facts — that is, what everyone has agreed on — it’s said that Musk gave Teslas to OpenAI as an in-kind contribution. In response to questioning from YGR, Musk says that he gave the Teslas to individuals, personally, and not to OpenAI: I bought at full price and gave them to individuals. It was a reward to the individuals.”
I don’t know if this matters, but it sure is interesting.

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Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
Elon Musk’s robot army definitely will not kill you.

Apparently he wasn’t 100 percent confident in yesterday’s clarification, because Molo asks Musk to clarify whether the “AI enabled robot army” mentioned in cross-examination is a military army. “No, we do not make any weapons,” Musk says. The point of his using the term was that “if we made a lot of robots we need to make sure they’re safe and don’t turn into a Terminator situation … you see int he movie, it’s not a good situation.”

Judge Gonzalez Rogers asks Musk to sum up the plot of Terminator in one sentence. “Worst case situation is AI kills us all I suppose,” he says.

With that, the jury leaves for a break.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
Musk insists he wasn’t kneecapping OpenAI.

Under questioning from Molo, his own lawyer, Musk tries to establish that he wasn’t causing harm to OpenAI. He says that as far as he knows, OpenAI wasn’t unable to cover any critical expenses because he ended his donations. He didn’t ask Andrej Karpathy to leave and join Tesla, only hired him after he said he was leaving OpenAI. Neuralink (while it was authorized to do so apparently) didn’t poach anyone from OpenAI as far as he knows. Did he seriously recruit anyone from OpenAI for Tesla besides Karpathy? “I don’t think so.” He reiterates that Tesla isn’t currently working on AGI, despite a recent tweet indicating it would achieve it.

Musk also repeats that he “did not read the fine print” on the term sheet for OpenAI’s for-profit wing. Molo brings up an email from Altman (forwarded to Musk by Zilis) about the draft that reads: “We did this in a way where all investors are clear they should never expect a profit, see purple box below.” On the stand, Musk says “I assumed he meant what he said.”

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Musk seems notably more subdued today.

On the cross exams by OpenAI and Microsoft, there was minimal (though still some) bickering, and we are now getting many more yeses and nos as full answers. I’m not sure whether Musk was trying to run out the clock yesterday or what, but he’s clearly rethought his strategy.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
“At least change the name,” Musk says he told Altman.

In the final section of cross-examination, Musk is asked about speaking with Altman in 2020. Musk apparently told Altman that OpenAI looked “hypocritical” after the deal with Microsoft and suggested he change the name of OpenAI. “He reassured me they were staying on mission,” Musk says on the stand — and therefore, Musk didn’t sue. Following that, cross-examination wraps up.

Emma Roth
Emma Roth
Lawmakers advance bill that would age-gate AI chatbots.

Introduced last year, the GUARD Act would ban kids under 18 from accessing chatbots, while implementing age checks for everyone else. The Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously voted to advance the bill on Thursday, and now it’s headed to the Senate floor.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
Elon Musk v. Capitalism.

Savitt mentions an X post where Musk says “the future is going to be amazing with AI and robots enabling sustainable abundance for all” and asks if he thinks it’s accurate. “Well, I’ve also said there are many possible futures. Some futures are good, and some are not good,” Musk says. “I think it’s generally better to err on the side of optimism than pessimism.” Musk agrees that “aspirationally,” he promotes xAI with the message that the future is going to be amazing.

Savitt then goes through a list of Musk’s companies — asking, one after another, if they’re for-profit. At a little prodding from Judge Gonzalez Rogers, Musk admits they all are. So, Savitt asks, they’re socially beneficial and for-profit? Musk agrees. Savitt then points out that Musk hasn’t started any nonprofits himself since OpenAI, despite having the money to do so. “Well, I thought I had started a nonprofit with OpenAI, but they stole the charity,” Musk says.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
An “ongoing conversation” around open source.

Savitt is bringing up some previously released email exchanges where Musk appeared okay with discussing what OpenAI would and wouldn’t make open source — including one where he replied “yup” to a comment that it would make sense to start being less open as AI advanced. He asks if Musk has made xAI’s own advanced versions of Grok open source — “No, but it will,” Musk says.

Savitt then mentions a letter Musk signed in 2023 asking to pause development of giant AI models out of safety concerns. Musk signed the letter shortly before he incorporated his own xAI, and Savitt asks why he didn’t disclose that fact; Musk says it was “just an open, non-binding letter” signed by hundreds of other people.

Adi Robertson
Adi Robertson
We’re still talking about whether Musk read the term sheet.

Musk has explained that he didn’t object to the proposed introduction of a capped profit structure initially at OpenAI (and also didn’t review it very closely), and Savitt is asking if he knew what the cap was for Microsoft’s investments in the company — Musk doesn’t seem clear on it. Savitt asks whether Musk had a lawyer set terms and conditions for his donations. Musk answers: “No, but it was obviously started as a nonprofit, and in the founding charter it says it will not be to the financial benefit of any person?” The apparent intended gist is that Musk didn’t set clear terms he can point to OpenAI or Altman violating.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
The jurors have been seated.

Elon Musk is on the stand, to continue the cross-examination from yesterday. If you’ve read Musk depositions or heard previous crosses, this kind of arguing and filibustering is pretty standard behavior. But I think this is the jury’s first encounter with it, and it’s hard to know how they’re going to take it.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
Musk has just entered the courtroom.

We are still dealing with the pretrial motions about the boundaries on safety questions.

Elizabeth Lopatto
Elizabeth Lopatto
“Issues of extinction are excluded.”

We are having an argument about which expert issues are going to be allowed. “We aren’t going to get into issues of catastrophe or extinction,” YGR says. Musk’s lawyers are not happy about this: “We all could die as the result of artificial intelligence.”