Even the storied director and noted luddite couldn’t escape the tyranny of parking apps. On the latest episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, Herzog confesses that he finally bought a smartphone after finding himself trapped in a parking lot that would only accept payment via app. “But it’s always switched off,” he adds. Listen to the whole episode for Herzog’s take on infotainment systems, turn-by-turn navigation, and truth in the age of AI.