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Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Epic and Google may not get their settlement.

Judge Donato is now ordering an evidentiary hearing in Epic v. Google, Law360’s Bonnie Eslinger reports from the courtroom. She writes Donato is “not sure the proposed deal will correct Google’s illegal conduct,” and was skeptical that Epic and Google “are suddenly BFFs.”

Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
I’m amused by how Google is complying with the Epic injunction.

I thought Google would change its policy — but no, existing payments policy pages haven’t changed. Instead, the news Google can no longer force you into Play Billing is on a separate page, one that doesn’t show up when I type “Play Billing” or “require billing” into the search console.

Also: “In the near future we will share more program requirements and business model changes to preserve user trust and safety in the ecosystem.”
Also: “In the near future we will share more program requirements and business model changes to preserve user trust and safety in the ecosystem.
Image: Google
Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Google has officially petitioned the Supreme Court in Epic v. Google.

In the meanwhile, on October 29th, Google will have to change its Android app store in big ways. “While we will comply, it forces us to weaken vital security protections, jeopardizing user safety and the open Android model that supports millions of developers,” writes Google spokesperson Dan Jackson.

Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Google isn’t petitioning the Supreme Court yet — it’s appealing Epic again to the appeals court first.

Document here. Google argues it shouldn’t be “subject to dramatically different antitrust regulatory regimes based on diverging opinions from different panels of this Court,” so it’s asking for en banc review, where the full Ninth Circuit (not just the previous three-judge panel) can decide whether it won on appeal.

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Sean Hollister and Jess Weatherbed
Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Google just got a minimum one-week emergency stay before it has to change Android app store policy.

Here’s the entire court filing:

Google LLC (“Google”) has filed an emergency motion for an administrative stay of the district court’s permanent injunction, entered October 7, 2024, pending Google’s forthcoming motion to stay the injunction pending further appellate proceedings. Google’s emergency motion (Dkt. Entry No. 201) is granted. Google should file its motion to stay the injunction pending further appellate proceedings no later than August 8, 2025.

Google previously had two weeks to begin complying. Now it has three weeks, or longer — depends whether these judges think the full Ninth Circuit or Supreme Court will want to weigh in on the permanent injunction against Google.

Jess Weatherbed
Jess Weatherbed
Google appeals Epic’s antitrust win.

As expected, the search giant is seeking to overturn a ruling that would force it to overhaul the Play Store. Google argues that Judge Donato should have never left the decision to a jury, and failed to recognize Apple as a smartphone competitor like another judge did in Apple v Epic.

If not reversed, the injunction and the flawed liability ruling underlying it will directly undercut Google’s efforts to compete against Apple and the iPhone, a competitive dynamic that has spurred innovation and brought concrete benefits to consumers around the world.

Google may not have to open up its Play Store for years, if at all, while it appeals the verdict. Oral arguments are scheduled to begin on February 3rd.

Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Actually, the Epic judge says Google *does* still have to stop doing something November 1st.

The court order just came in, and I’ve corrected our story. Bolding mine:

The Court grants a partial stay of the permanent injunction pending the circuit court’s resolution of the stay requests Google filed there, with the exception of ¶ 8 of the injunction, which is not stayed.

Paragraph 8 says:

Google can’t get device makers or carriers to block rival app stores in exchange for money, rev share, or perks.
Google can’t get device makers or carriers to block rival app stores in exchange for money, rev share, or perks.
Image: US District Court, Northern District of CA
Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
Here’s why Epic says Google shouldn’t get to delay its court-ordered app store changes.

Will Google begin opening up its store on November 1st, or will it get to delay for years on appeal? We’ll find out tomorrow; in the meanwhile, you can read Epic’s opposition at the link below.

Epic argues Google’s already had plenty of time to change things — since the jury’s verdict was 10 months ago.

Sean Hollister
Sean Hollister
On Friday, we’ll hear whether Google can delay cracking open Android.

Last week, Judge Donato ruled that Google would have to open up Android to third-party app stores starting November 1st — but Google immediately filed an appeal and asked for an emergency stay.

Now, the judge will hear Google’s motion on October 18th. If he grants it, it could be years until Google makes changes, even if higher courts agree with his ruling.

“A hearing... is set for October 18, 2024.”
The judge’s latest order in Epic v. Google.
Image: CourtListener
Emma Roth
Emma Roth
Google wants to block Epic’s requested changes while it appeals antitrust verdict.

Following a final ruling that says Google will have to open up the Play Store to third-party marketplaces, Google reaffirmed its plans to appeal the decision.

At the same time, Google is also asking the court to pause Epic Games’ requests to distribute rival app stores and adjust its payment system. Apple was granted a reprieve during its Epic legal battle last year.